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you're right Raycon, thanks for the catch

@tundraboy I'm sure there is something Apple could buy and make a huge splash but I am skeptical that any of the commonly companies are one of them. I think your guesses actually make more sense. @Howard Well that makes a lot of sense but Steve seems diametrically opposed to the idea of dividends. The last time I recall him publicly asked about dividends it was at a share holder meeting where some one in the audience said: "You're not planning on a dividend right?" and the response was: "You've got that right" Not that Steve is oblivious to shareholders but he's sees the cash as belonging to Apple and expects investors to get there gains by the increasing value of the stock. It makes sense, the more cash Apple has the more the stock goes up (in theory anyway) but if the stock stalls I'd expect people to start clamoring for a dividend.

Thanks Khurt and Ray.

My suspicion is based on the fact that I just tried it. But after your comment I am rethinking this. Buy the time I started the download and made it to my TV. Plugged in the Apple TV (those things run warm so I leave mine off) and got everything going there is a good chance that it was already downloaded. So, I am not so sure now. Next time I want to see a movie I'll try it again to know for sure. On the iOS thing, well, this is getting pretty esoteric. iOS is a version of OS X designed with touch in mind. But still a subset of OS X. I just don't see anyway that the Apple TV ever runs iOS. On the other hand, with a broad enough definition you could argue that iOS powers the Apple TV. For me, I'll stick to the iOS runs a touch based interface for my definition. In the end, I suspect iOS is more a marketing convention than any meaningful delineation in the spectrum of OSes that is rapidly becoming Apple produced OSes.

I see what yopu're saying swiller, all the iOS developers can now be iTV too and that's worked out pretty well for Apple so why not? But there is a substantial difference between developing an App that runs on a touch device and one that runs iTV simply because the way you are forced to interact is vastly different. While I think greater integration between the iPhone and Apple TV would be cool (I guess, the remote app is pretty great already though I 'm sure Apple could add a lot to it) the idea of iOS on the Apple TV just doesn't seem to be a huge benefit. Certainly Apple could open up development for the Apple TV and get third party programmers developing nifty apps for the Apple TV but there isn't a huge installed user base like the iPhone to instantly motivate people to jump on in. Though it isn't a bad idea at all, some of the most compelling reasons to buy an iPhone are third party software products, third party software products for the Apple TV would be welcome. I'm not trying to say that Apple won't get more integration going, or that Apple shouldn't get more integration going, I'm just saying that a) you won't need iOS to do it and b) iOS isn't a good fit for the Apple TV. Apple can come up with some version of OS X that fits the Apple TV perfectly and expands the devices ability without having to resort to iOS. Of course, Apple already does this. The company uses a version of OS X to run the olden style iPods (nano, classic, shuffle) a version of OS X for the touch devices (iOS), a version for the Apple TV and, of course, versions for full blown computers. iOS isn't the solution for every device.

Techlectics, You can already use an iPhone as a remote so where is the gain by putting iOS on the Apple TV? Imagine playing Text Twist on your 60" TV. You control it with you Magic Trackpad, how do you know where your finger is on the screen? You'll need some sort of indication where your finger is hovering. Perhaps a shadow or tiny hand like a wiimote, right? You know what that is called? A cursor. Congrats on the 11 year old sun by the way, I didn't realize fusion technology had come so far.

So Alfiejr you envision the Appl eTV as some sort of iPod/iPhone accessory? Where it is necessary to own an iPod touch or an iPad or an iPhone to use it? I suppose it is possible... But then what's the point of putting iOS on the AppleTV. You can't run any apps from your Apple TV cause you have to use your iPhone to interact with it and you might as well run the apps on your iPhone. One supposes the iTV (which I bet won't show up) could just be an iPod touch that hooks to your TV but that's not really an iTV that's an iPod touch with a dock. And surely, if any company can pull off such a feat it would be Apple. That said, cramming iOS onto the Apple TV doesn't really help anything.